Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

topic posted Fri, July 31, 2009 - 10:43 AM by  AaroTrot
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Help! I'm on a quest for the wisdom of the eight

you know the ancient city of Hermopolis in Egypt
may have been named after the original grandfather of Alchemy
Hermes Tresmegistus, and the Greeks linked Hermes with Thoth
and originally in ancient times it was the place of Creation where the
Sun Child Ra was born. Thoth led a pantheon of 8 snake and frog
gods and goddessses who formed the City of 8 and they were
traveling to the 8th dimension, representing the 8 seasonal shifts of the year.

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www.octagonmystic.wordpress.com

the magic 8 ball reveals the 8 and its relations in everyday life from
churches to spiders, alchemy to geometry and history,
stop signs, umbrellas and more!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Find out more about the Magical Number 8 as it relates to the Architecture,
the Dome, Freemasonic Mysteries, and so much more. this is for all you
alchemists out there.

help me discover more about the secrets of the octagon.
Anyone out there?
posted by:
AaroTrot
Portland
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  • Re: Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

    Mon, August 3, 2009 - 2:17 AM
    brother Aarotrot...no one can help you on your quest for the 'wisdom of the eight'.....the path/journey is very individual for the initiate. You may have already come across certain information which would have led to greater insight and synchronicity. Research will undoubtedly present you with volumes of text; however pasting words concerning forces of such primeval chaos is not necessary. Yes, the number eight carries an abundant harmony and significance. Yet, so do all numbers. Your wisdom is progressing in tune with your own connectivity and experience. Slow down, bask in that which brought light on this great study of universal wisdom.

    blessed be,
    vercifyr
    • Re: Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

      Fri, August 7, 2009 - 3:52 AM
      8 is a number with an endless number of amazing powerful connections....

      just like all the other numbers 1-10

      I suggest you get / look at a book called....

      A Beginners Guide to Constructing the Universe...

      I have always said I cannot recommend this book too highly.
      It covers each number from 1-10 and gives probably the single greatest overview of all the powerful meanings
      and associations that come from and are related to that number.
      Cheers.
  • Re: Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

    Thu, August 20, 2009 - 11:48 AM
    Just rediscovered something that may be of interest here:

    Cheth = 8, (777, Table VI, Col. CLXXV)

    "Cheth" spelled out is Cheth-Yod-Tau, 8+10+400 = 418, (777, Table I, Col. II)
    • Re: Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

      Fri, August 21, 2009 - 12:49 AM
      >>>Just rediscovered something that may be of interest here:

      Cheth = 8, (777, Table VI, Col. CLXXV)

      "Cheth" spelled out is Cheth-Yod-Tau, 8+10+400 = 418, (777, Table I, Col. II) <<<

      Of even greater interest to me is that Crowley's system interpreted 418 (Cheth spelled fully in numerical equivalents) as "The Great Work Accomplished," thus making it a key number in his magickal system.

      And though Crowley may not have been aware of this, the number 8 serves in the Judeo-Christian Bible as a symbol of rebirth and renewal, particularly the spiritual rebirth called in the New Testament Greek "the birth from above" whereby "ye might be partakers of the divine nature." (2Peter 1:4) "And Jesus said unto him, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a man be born again (Gk. gennethu anothen = born from above ' John 3:4) he cannot see the kingdom of God."

      And if we look into The Book of the Law, we find 1:46--"Nothing is a secret key of this law. Sixty-one the Jews call it; I call it eight, eighty, four hundred & eighteen." This is easily explained as the Hebrew word for 'nothing" is "NIA", literally "not" or "naught". Then among the words that add to eight we find HBA = To will or intend, BHA = Desired, beloved, and also HAB = The door or threshold. The words adding to eighty suggest the nature of that will and desire, viz. MIS = Union, DOSEY - Foundation, and SK = Throne. (Note that the Hebrew words above, though transliterated into the Roman alphabet are written right to left in the Hebrew fashion, so the word for "Foundation" as an example, spelled left to right as in English would become the familiar "Yesod", the ninth Sephira..)

      Then 418 gives us the "Word of the Aeon, Makashanah" and also "Abrahadabra" which also means "The Great Work Accomplished." And the method is given in Crowley's frequent admonitions to "Invoke often:" and "Inflame thyself with prayer." Such is the nature of the will to embrace all events and unite with each to raise our consciousness to the threshold of the Sanctuary of the Gnosis, to enter within and therein to be enthroned as conquerors of maya. Thus are we to accomplish our true wills, the Great Work, the Summum Bonum, True Wisdom and Perfect Happiness"


      So that is the scoop on number 8 from my possibly demented perspective. Well it makes sense to me, though I'm not sure that anyone else will find it so.

      With love under will,

      Bob, Adastra,
      The Wizzard of Jacksonville
      • Re: Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

        Fri, August 21, 2009 - 9:32 AM
        Thank you, Adastra!!

        >And though Crowley may not have been aware of this, the number 8 serves in the Judeo-Christian Bible as a symbol of rebirth and renewal, particularly the spiritual rebirth called in the New Testament Greek "the birth from above" whereby "ye might be partakers of the divine nature."<

        This coincides with astrology too, as Scorpio is the 8th sign/house, and the sign/house of death and rebirth.
      • Re: Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

        Mon, August 24, 2009 - 11:56 AM
        Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

        see Liber Arcanorum for more on 'cheth' as a hieroglyph for the great work. serious students may find the letters hidden in the trim above the canopy on "the chariot" card in the book of thoth enlightening.

        as an aside, i think it's worth mentioning that the word of the aeon is Abrahadabra - Makhashana is only the word of the Aeon on Hecate's plane. see Liber 418, 26th Aethyr.

        Love is the law, love under will.
        • Re: Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

          Mon, August 24, 2009 - 12:18 PM
          "see Liber Arcanorum for more on 'cheth' as a hieroglyph for the great work. serious students may find the letters hidden in the trim above the canopy on "the chariot" card in the book of thoth enlightening."

          Wowzers! Thanks for sharing that observation! It seems to say "abracadabra" instead of "abrahadabra" – hoping someone cn shed more light on the abrahadabra/abracadabra connection, as I seem to recall that there was something to this...

          link to picture of Chariot card:

          media.photobucket.com/image/t...ot-1.jpg
          • Re: Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

            Mon, August 24, 2009 - 12:59 PM
            Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

            hee hee there's Quite A Bit to it ;) see liber arcanorum, and consult with the genii...

            (for additional help, consult Ambrosii Magi Hortus Rosarum)

            Love is the law, love under will.
            • Re: Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

              Mon, August 24, 2009 - 1:00 PM
              Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

              also *d'oh* the manuscript fragment's of crowley's record in The Equionx of the Gods

              Love is the law, love under will.
              • Re: Thoth's Ogdoad of Eight

                Mon, August 24, 2009 - 1:20 PM
                Looks like being home sick today is indeed a blessing, lol. I can read up on all this stuff.

                A thousand thank yous, Solve Omnis!!!

                ¡93!
                • ABRAHADABRA

                  Thu, November 19, 2009 - 4:02 AM
                  Nice! Thanks for the input Adastra!

                  ABRAHADABRA
                  Father Sun, 365'

                  AB
                  RA
                  HAD
                  AB
                  RA

                  The Great Work Accomplished' of which is'

                  Thy True Will'

                  11

                  In Nu is Had concealed'

                  by Had is Nu manifested'

                  Good Stuff!

                  1721

                  +NM+

                  Nobu +

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