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George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

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NOTE: I did not write this; I stole it from somewhere else.
hilarious:)


Thelemic references in the Star Wars trilogy:

- Crowley was OHO of the Order of Oriental Templars (OTO) and Lucas'
original name for the Jedi Knights was the Jedi Templars.

- Crowley's secret name in the OTO was supposed to have been 'Phoenix'
and the symbol of the Rebel Alliance is a stylised phoenix.

- The windows in the Emperor's chambers at the climax of Return of the
Jedi spell 'OTO'.

- from the Book of the Law, dictated to Crowley: 'the obeah and the
wanga, the work of the wand and the work of the sword, these he shall
learn and teach.' Obeah = Obi. Wanga = Wan. Thus, Obi-Wan. And what
device is a wand one moment and a sword the next? A lightsaber, of
course; and the relevance of 'learn and teach' is obvious, since Obi-Wan
is the teacher.

- Vader's sabre is red, the colour of the sphere of Geburah, or
Severity: Obi-Wan's is blue, the colour of its opposing sphere, Chesed
or Mercy.

- Crowley makes references to 'the dwarf insane yet crafty' who is the
source of true Wisdom, obviously a reference to Yoda.

- The greatest ordeal in Crowley's A.'.A.'. system is the 'crossing of
the abyss'. One reaches the brink of a great gulf and must either
surrender everything one is and jump, or remain behind to become a
'black brother' or 'brother of the left hand path'. The 'crossing of the
abyss' is foreshadowed in A New Hope, at the point at which Luke and
Leia swing over the chasm, but is actually achieved in full in Empire
Strikes Back, at the climax of the film.

In the climax of Empire, Luke's right hand is severed at the wrist,
implying that he must take the left hand path and turn to the Dark Side,
i.e. become a 'black brother'. Faced with the choice of crossing the
Abyss or turning to the 'Left Hand Path', Luke chooses to jump, which is
the act that redeems him from a future of corruption.

- Luke is also the Horus figure, the avenger (as in Revenge of the Jedi,
the original title). In the climax of Empire, Vader (previously
identified with Set, the murderer of the father) is revealed to _be_ the
father, the dark Osiris - this being the same secret that was revealed
in the Egyptian Mysteries, namely that 'Osiris is a Black God!'

- The 'Black Brethren' are those who have 'shut themselves up', become
encased and closed off from the Universe, exactly as Vader is encased in
black armour. Their sphere on the Tree of Life is the false sphere
'da'ath', obviously the source for 'Darth'.

- Vader out of his armour proves to be a bald guy with an English
accent, uncannily reminiscent of Crowley.

Not convinced yet? Try this quote from one of Crowley's Holy Books, in
which a part of the Star Wars universe is mentioned BY NAME:

'... Thy messenger was more terrible than the Death-star.'

The messenger of the Emperor is of course Vader, who possesses (and
represents) a power far more terrible than the Death Star - the dark
side of the Force itself. As Vader himself reminds his fellow Imperials,
'The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of
the Force.'

You might recognise this scene, too...

'the chamber was corrupt; the air stank... He enveloped me with his
demon tentacles; yea, the eight fears took hold upon me.'

Garbage compactors, anyone? However, we all know what happened next:

'I slipped from the embrace as a stone from the sling of a boy of the
woodlands. I was smooth and hard as ivory; the horror gat no hold.'

Smooth and hard as ivory indeed, for Luke is wearing stormtrooper armour
in that scene.

Well, George? Been having a bit of the old do-what-thou-wilt, have we?
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  • Re: George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

    Mon, December 11, 2006 - 10:58 PM
    John Hall of Hall & Oates has mentioned his admiration for Crowleys teachings in the past.
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      Re: George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

      Mon, December 11, 2006 - 11:01 PM
      Isn't Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden into him as well?
      • Re: George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

        Mon, December 11, 2006 - 11:05 PM
        He's probably into everyone. As is Ronnie James Dio. I wonder if Jimmy Page is still into magick? He sold Crowleys castle right? I can't remember now. Last I remember he had trouble selling it so took it off the market. Then I heard he sold it and it was going to be a tourist attraction. ?
        • Re: George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

          Mon, December 11, 2006 - 11:17 PM
          on an entirely serious note...besides Kenneth Anger & Harry Smith (which quite likely most of y'all knew already) can anyone here name any other prominent film makers with a significant Thelemic orientation, or, at least a serious, non-sensationalist interest in Crowley? share what you know!
          • Re: George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

            Thu, January 4, 2007 - 5:38 PM
            >>can anyone here name any other prominent film makers with a significant Thelemic orientation, or, at least a serious, non-sensationalist interest in Crowley?<<

            Alejandro Jodorowsky, for sure.
            Maya Deren, probably.
            The Wachowski brothers, maybe?

            As for V for Vendetta, Reverend Dan, good pick-up...and since it was based on the graphic novel written by Alan Moore, who most certainly *is* a serious magician and mystic who includes Thelemic and Kabbalistic themes in many of his writings ("Promethea" is the most extroverted one), I'd say you're spot on. Incidentally, I didn't notice a writing credit due Moore in the film, and I was looking for it...wonder what's up with that?
            • Re: George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

              Thu, January 4, 2007 - 9:14 PM
              that's interesting, Bunni, thanks for answering. can you tell me where Jodorowsky has mentioned Crowley?
              • Re: George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

                Fri, January 5, 2007 - 5:04 PM
                Hmm, now you got've me thinkin', Holden. Has he ever made explicit references to Crowley?...I don’t know. I’ve never thought of Jodorowsky as a Thelemite in that he draws from so many different world esoteric traditions (hermetic, Christian, shamanism, Eastern mysticism…) but always assumed he was at least somewhat influenced by Crowley b/c of his association with Kenneth Anger and the magical themes in his films.

                I see elements of Thelema in ‘The Holy Mountain,’ e.g. the symbolic crossing of the abyss toward the end when they must first overcome the illusion of having reached the mountain, after which they experience visions of death and are later met by a baboon (sacred to Thoth) and the prostitute (the whore of Babylon figure) as signal they have reached the other side; the discovery of the Masters as an illusion, a sham, that in reaching the Holy Mountain they have only found themselves at its godhead (my interpretation); also, the transformation of feces to gold as metaphor for the purification of the spirit along the Sephirotic paths, which is represented by the journey they take. Some of this is common to other traditions and mythologies too….
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        Re: George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

        Mon, December 11, 2006 - 11:13 PM
        Holy Crap!!

        IRON MAIDEN Frontman Working On Movie About ALEISTER CROWLEY - Dec. 8, 2006

        Rock star, pilot and expert swordsman — now IRON MAIDEN singer Bruce Dickinson has even becomes a movie producer.

        This week, Swedish newspaper Expressen reported that Dickinson is working on a film about the satanist Aleister Crowley.

        "They are hoping for the Cannes festival," a source told Expressen.

        Crowley has been Bruce Dickinson's idol for many years. The IRON MAIDEN song "Revelations" is said to refer to Crowley's classic claim that he was the "anti-christ 666" reincarnated. In other words, the Devil himself.

        Bruce Dickinson is now involved in the pre-production of a movie inspired by Crowley, who lived between 1875 and 1947.

        "The project has been going on for a while, and is still at an early pre-production stage," said Dave Pattenden from IRON MAIDEN's management. "At the moment, Bruce cannot comment on the movie."

        The financing is ready and the movie is reportedly about a professor in an English university, who, after a failed experiment, becomes obsessed with Crowley's soul. Crowley himself was very much into red-haired women, and the professor becomes enchanted by a very beautiful, red-haired student.

        "Bruce talked to me about this during the whole dinner," said Expressen's source. "He is producing and is probably participating creatively as well. I even think Bruce will be doing the soundtrack for the movie. I know nothing about dates yet, but I think it will be released near the Cannes festival. That's what Bruce is hoping for."
  • Re: George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

    Thu, December 14, 2006 - 10:24 AM
    Um...Marvel Comics worships Crowley too!!
    - Crowley's secret name in the OTO was supposed to have been 'Phoenix'
    and their's charater named Phoenix.

    -'the chamber was corrupt; the air stank... He enveloped me with his
    demon tentacles; yea, the eight fears took hold upon me'
    HELLO!! Doctor Octopup anyone??!!

    -The Churches all installed rose windows spell an "o" within a "t" within an "o". This was a conspriacy by the templars who were freemasons who built the cathedrals in Europe.
    You can see what I mean here:

    www.stainedglassphotography.com/Ca...peg
    [this one even has the 33 degree masonic bird AND it's an alchemaic symbol which as we all know the masons and the templars did which spawned the Rosecrucians, which is why they call it the "rose window"]

    and here: www.newyorkcarver.com/geometry/rose9.gif

    -- Crowley makes references to 'the dwarf insane yet crafty' who is the
    source of true Wisdom, obviously a reference to Danny Devito on Lemoncello who in recent years has gone from acting to directing. AND he's a contemporary of George Lucas.

    -Shakespeare even. Hamlet wants to avenge his father's death. Hamlet is also the Horus figure, the avenger). In the climax of Hamlet, His father's brother (previously
    identified with Set, the murderer of the father) is revealed to _be_ the
    incestous uncle, the dark Osiris - this being the same secret that was revealed
    in the Egyptian Mysteries, namely that 'Osiris is a Black God!'

    -'I slipped from the embrace as a stone from the sling of a boy of the
    woodlands. I was smooth and hard as ivory; the horror gat no hold.'
    THIS is a biblical reference to David and Goliath which is also a struggle like the masons go through when the make a master mason in the blue lodge.

    Wait, wait Shakespeare and the Bible were around before Crowley.

    "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." Alfred Hitchcock.




    • Re: George Lucas a disciple of Crowley?

      Thu, January 4, 2007 - 5:55 PM
      >>Marvel Comics worships Crowley too!!<<

      Ya know, I find it interesting that there appear to be many comics writers who tap into (or are otherwise familiar with) that current, whether they are actual practitioners (Alan Moore, Grant Morrison) or just writing for projects--often intelligent and sophisticated--that explore occult subjects or include characters who do (Hellblazer, Sandman, Preacher, The Invisibles). Most of the writers also seem to be Brit.

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